diff --git a/pkg/arvo/lib/hood/kiln.hoon b/pkg/arvo/lib/hood/kiln.hoon
index 61e29189e..f5968a4c6 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/lib/hood/kiln.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/lib/hood/kiln.hoon
@@ -383,7 +383,9 @@
     ~_  leaf/"kiln: {<lac>} not installed"
     vats(loc lac, rak (~(got by ark) lac))
   ::
-  ++  here  "{<loc>} from {<[ship desk]:ral>}"
+  ++  here  ?~  rail.rak  "{<loc>} from local"
+            "{<loc>} from {<[ship desk]:ral>}"
+  ::
   ++  make-wire  |=(step=@tas /kiln/vats/[loc]/[step])
   ++  from-wire
     |=  =wire
@@ -487,7 +489,7 @@
     =:  loc  lac
         rak  [~ *rein]
       ==
-    ~>  %slog.0^leaf/"kiln: local install {here}"
+    ~>  %slog.0^leaf/"kiln: beginning install into {here}"
     =.  vats  (update-running-apps (get-apps-diff our loc now rein.rak))
     =.  vats  (emit listen:pass)
     vats
diff --git a/pkg/bitcoin/desk.docket b/pkg/bitcoin/desk.docket
index 2dd49e734..cb232ef71 100644
--- a/pkg/bitcoin/desk.docket
+++ b/pkg/bitcoin/desk.docket
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
   title+'Bitcoin'
   info+'BTC wallet for Urbit. Testing'
   color+0xf9.8e40
-  glob-http+'https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v4.ghaim.of1as.9ucee.uj93f.a9nbs.glob'
+  glob-http+['https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v4.ghaim.of1as.9ucee.uj93f.a9nbs.glob' 0v4.ghaim.of1as.9ucee.uj93f.a9nbs]
   image+'https://urbit.ewr1.vultrobjects.com/hastuc-dibtux/2021.8.24..02.57.38-bitcoin.svg'
   base+'bitcoin'
   version+[0 0 1]
diff --git a/pkg/garden-dev/lib/docket.hoon b/pkg/garden-dev/lib/docket.hoon
index 3ad600f30..0b10c9254 100644
--- a/pkg/garden-dev/lib/docket.hoon
+++ b/pkg/garden-dev/lib/docket.hoon
@@ -7,8 +7,8 @@
     $:  title=(unit @t)
         info=(unit @t)
         color=(unit @ux)
-        glob-http=(unit url)
-        glob-ames=(unit =ship)
+        glob-http=(unit [=url hash=@uvH])
+        glob-ames=(unit [=ship hash=@uvH])
         base=(unit term)
         site=(unit path)
         image=(unit url)
@@ -30,10 +30,10 @@
       ?^  site.draft  `[%site u.site.draft]
       ?~  base.draft  ~
       ?^  glob-http.draft
-        `[%glob [u.base %http u.glob-http]:draft]
+        `[%glob u.base hash.u.glob-http %http url.u.glob-http]:draft
       ?~  glob-ames.draft
         ~
-      `[%glob [u.base %ames u.glob-ames]:draft]
+      `[%glob u.base hash.u.glob-ames %ames ship.u.glob-ames]:draft
     ?~  href  ~
     =,  draft
     :-  ~
@@ -60,8 +60,8 @@
         %title  draft(title `title.clause)
         %info   draft(info `info.clause)
         %color  draft(color `color.clause)
-        %glob-http   draft(glob-http `url.clause)
-        %glob-ames   draft(glob-ames `ship:clause)
+        %glob-http   draft(glob-http `[url hash]:clause)
+        %glob-ames   draft(glob-ames `[ship hash]:clause)
         %base   draft(base `base.clause)
         %site   draft(site `path.clause)
         %image  draft(image `url.clause)
@@ -84,11 +84,11 @@
         ==
         ?~  image.d  ~  ~[image+u.image.d]
         ?:  ?=(%site -.href.d)  ~[site+path.href.d]
-        =/  loc=glob-location  glob-location.href.d
+        =/  ref=glob-reference  glob-reference.href.d
         :~  base+base.href.d
-            ?-  -.loc
-              %http  [%glob-http url.loc]
-              %ames  [%glob-ames ship.loc]
+            ?-  -.location.ref
+              %http  [%glob-http url.location.ref hash.ref]
+              %ames  [%glob-ames ship.location.ref hash.ref]
     ==  ==  ==
   ::
   ++  spit-clause
@@ -98,8 +98,13 @@
     ?+  -.clause  "'{(trip +.clause)}'"
       %color  (scow %ux color.clause)
       %site   (spud path.clause)
-      %glob-ames  (scow %p ship.clause)
-      ::
+    ::
+        %glob-http
+      "[{(trip url.clause)} {(scow %uv hash.clause)}]"
+    ::
+        %glob-ames
+      "[{(scow %p ship.clause)} {(scow %uv hash.clause)}]"
+    ::
         %version
       =,  version.clause
       "[{(scow %ud major)} {(scow %ud minor)} {(scow %ud patch)}]"
@@ -127,10 +132,10 @@
     ?-  -.u
       %del-charge  s+desk.u
     ::
-        %initial  
+        %initial
       %-  pairs
       %+  turn  ~(tap by initial.u)
-      |=([=desk c=^charge] [desk (charge c)]) 
+      |=([=desk c=^charge] [desk (charge c)])
     ::
         %add-charge
       %-  pairs
@@ -167,17 +172,24 @@
         %glob
       %-  pairs
       :~  base+s+base.h
-          glob-location+(glob-location glob-location.h)
+          glob-reference+(glob-reference glob-reference.h)
       ==
     ==
   ::
+  ++  glob-reference
+    |=  ref=^glob-reference
+    %-  pairs
+    :~  hash+s+(scot %uv hash.ref)
+        location+(glob-location location.ref)
+    ==
+  ::
   ++  glob-location
     |=  loc=^glob-location
     ^-  json
     %+  frond  -.loc
     ?-  -.loc
-      %http  (pairs url+s+url.loc ~)
-      %ames  (ship ship.loc)
+      %http  s+url.loc
+      %ames  s+(scot %p ship.loc)
     ==
   ::
   ++  charge
diff --git a/pkg/garden-dev/sur/docket.hoon b/pkg/garden-dev/sur/docket.hoon
index bd79a2b6c..cb60c78c8 100644
--- a/pkg/garden-dev/sur/docket.hoon
+++ b/pkg/garden-dev/sur/docket.hoon
@@ -8,6 +8,9 @@
 +$  url   cord
 ::  $glob-location: How to retrieve a glob
 ::
++$  glob-reference
+  [hash=@uvH location=glob-location]
+::
 +$  glob-location
   $%  [%http =url]
       [%ames =ship]
@@ -15,7 +18,7 @@
 ::  $href: Where a tile links to
 ::
 +$  href
-  $%  [%glob base=term =glob-location]
+  $%  [%glob base=term =glob-reference]
       [%site =path]
   ==
 ::  $chad: State of a docket
@@ -24,9 +27,9 @@
   $%  :: Done
       [%glob =glob]
       [%site ~]
-      :: Waiting 
+      :: Waiting
       [%install ~]
-      [%suspend ~]
+      [%suspend glob=(unit glob)]
       :: Error
       [%hung err=cord]
   ==
@@ -46,8 +49,8 @@
   $%  [%title title=@t]
       [%info info=@t]
       [%color color=@ux]
-      [%glob-http url=cord]
-      [%glob-ames =ship]
+      [%glob-http url=cord hash=@uvH]
+      [%glob-ames =ship hash=@uvH]
       [%image =url]
       [%site =path]
       [%base base=term]
@@ -62,7 +65,7 @@
   $:  %1
       title=@t
       info=@t
-      color=@ux 
+      color=@ux
       =href
       image=(unit url)
       =version
diff --git a/pkg/garden/app/docket.hoon b/pkg/garden/app/docket.hoon
index 60c157360..ebce1a1cc 100644
--- a/pkg/garden/app/docket.hoon
+++ b/pkg/garden/app/docket.hoon
@@ -123,10 +123,13 @@
       ?>  (team:title [our src]:bowl)
       `state
     ::
-        [%glob @ ~]
+        [%glob @ @ ~]
+      =*  base  i.t.path
+      =*  hash  (slav %uv i.t.t.path)
       =/  desk     ~|(path/path (~(got by by-base) i.t.path))
       =/  =charge  ~|(desk/desk (~(got by charges) desk))
       ?>  ?=(%glob -.chad.charge)
+      ?>  =(hash (hash-glob:cc glob.chad.charge))
       :_  state
       :~  [%give %fact ~[path] %glob !>(`glob`glob.chad.charge)]
           [%give %kick ~[path] ~]
@@ -150,7 +153,9 @@
       %-  ~(run by charges)
       |=  =charge
       =?  chad.charge  ?=(%glob -.chad.charge)
-        [%glob *glob]
+        :-  %glob
+        %-  ~(run by glob.chad.charge)
+        |=(=mime mime(q.q 1.337))
       charge
     ==
     ::
@@ -191,18 +196,45 @@
           %commit
         =*  cha  ~(. ch desk.diff)
         ?.  docket-exists:cha  `state
-        =/  =docket  docket:cha
+        ::  always update the docket in state to match clay's
+        ::
+        =/  =docket            docket:cha
+        =/  pre=(unit charge)  (~(get by charges) desk.diff)
+        =.  charges            (new-docket:cha docket)
+        ::  if the new chad is a site, we're instantly done
+        ::
         ?:  ?=(%site -.href.docket)
-          :_  state(charges (~(put by charges) desk.diff [docket [%site ~]]))
-          ~[add-fact:cha]
-        =.  charges  (~(put by charges) desk.diff [docket %install ~])
+          :-  ~[add-fact:cha]
+          =.  charges  (new-chad:cha %site ~)
+          state
+        ::
         =.  by-base  (~(put by by-base) base.href.docket desk.diff)
-        :_  state
-        [add-fact:cha fetch-glob:cha]
+        ::  if the glob specification is unchanged, keep it
+        ::
+        ?:  &(?=(^ pre) =(href.docket.u.pre `href.docket))
+          [~[add-fact:cha] state]
+        ::  if the glob spec changed, but we already host it, keep it
+        ::  (this is the "just locally uploaded" case)
+        ::
+        ?:  ?&  ?=(^ pre)
+                ?=(%glob -.chad.u.pre)
+              ::
+                .=  [(sham glob.chad.u.pre) %ames our.bowl]
+                glob-reference.href.docket
+            ==
+          [~[add-fact:cha] state]
+        ::  if the glob changed, forget the old and fetch the new
+        ::
+        =.  charges  (new-chad:cha %install ~)
+        [[add-fact:cha fetch-glob:cha] state]
       ::
           %suspend
         ?.  (~(has by charges) desk.diff)  `state
-        =.  charges  (new-chad:cha %suspend ~)
+        =/  glob=(unit glob)
+          =/  =chad
+            chad:(~(got by charges) desk.diff)
+          ?:(?=(%glob -.chad) `glob.chad ~)
+        =.  charges  (new-chad:cha %suspend glob)
         :_(state ~[add-fact:cha])
       ::
           %revive
@@ -211,7 +243,11 @@
         ?.  ?=(%glob -.href.docket.charge)
           =.  charges  (new-chad:cha %site ~)
           :_(state ~[add-fact:cha])
-        =.  charges  (new-chad:cha %install ~)
+        =.  charges
+          %-  new-chad:cha
+          ?.  ?=([%suspend ~ *] chad.charge)
+            [%install ~]
+          [%glob u.glob.chad.charge]
         :_(state [add-fact fetch-glob]:cha)
       ==
     ==
@@ -235,7 +271,35 @@
       ?~  p.sign  `state
       ((slog leaf+"Failed to uninstall %{(trip desk)}" u.p.sign) `state)
     ::
-        [%glob ~]
+        [%glob-ames ~]
+      ?-  -.sign
+        %kick      `state
+        %poke-ack  ~&([dap.bowl %unexpected-poke-ack] `state)
+      ::
+          %watch-ack
+        ?~  p.sign  `state
+        %-  %-  slog
+            leaf+"docket: failed to fetch glob over ames for {(trip desk)}"
+        =.  charges  (new-chad:cha hung+'failed to fetch glob via ames')
+        [~[add-fact:cha] state]
+      ::
+          %fact
+        ?.  =(%glob p.cage.sign)
+          ~&  [dap.bowl %unexpected-fact from=src.bowl p.cage.sign]
+          `state
+        =+  !<(=glob q.cage.sign)
+        =/  =docket  docket:(~(got by charges) desk)
+        ?.  ?=([%glob * %ames *] href.docket)
+          `state
+        ?.  =(hash.glob-reference.href.docket (hash-glob glob))
+          ~&  [dap.bowl %glob-hash-mismatch on=desk from=src.bowl]
+          `state
+        =.  charges  (new-chad:cha glob+glob)
+        =.  by-base  (~(put by by-base) base.href.docket desk)
+        [~[add-fact:cha] state]
+      ==
+    ::
+        [%glob-http ~]
       ?-  -.sign
         %kick   `state
       ::
@@ -291,6 +355,8 @@
 ++  pass  pass:io
 ++  def  ~(. (default-agent state %|) bowl)
 ::
+++  hash-glob  sham
+::
 ++  handle-http-request
   |=  [eyre-id=@ta inbound-request:eyre]
   ^-  (quip card _state)
@@ -415,13 +481,31 @@
         :_  [~ state]
         [[400 ~] `(upload-page err)]
       :-  [[200 ~] `(upload-page 'successfully globbed' ~)]
+      ?>  ?=(%glob -.href.docket.charge)
       ::
       =.  charges  (new-chad:cha glob+glob)
       =.  by-base
         =-  (~(put by by-base) - desk)
-        ?>  ?=(%glob -.href.docket.charge)
         base.href.docket.charge
-      [~[add-fact:cha] state]
+      ::
+      :_  state
+      ::
+      =/  ours=?
+        =/  loc  location.glob-reference.href.docket.charge
+        ?&  ?=(%ames -.loc)
+            =(our.bowl ship.loc)
+        ==
+      ::
+      :*  add-fact:cha
+        ::
+          ?.  ours  ~
+          ^-  (list card)
+          =-  [%pass /write/[desk] %arvo %c %info -]~
+          %+  foal:space:userlib
+            /(scot %p our.bowl)/[desk]/(scot %da now.bowl)/desk/docket
+          =-  [%docket !>(`docket`-)]
+          docket.charge(glob-reference.href [(hash-glob glob) %ames our.bowl])
+      ==
     ::
     ?~  parts=(de-request:multipart [header-list body]:request)
       ~&  headers=header-list.request
@@ -518,18 +602,29 @@
     (poke-our:(pass %install) %hood kiln-install+!>([desk ship remote]))
   ++  uninstall
     (poke-our:(pass %uninstall) %hood kiln-uninstall+!>(desk))
+  ++  new-docket  |=(d=^docket (~(jab by charges) desk |=(charge +<(docket d))))
   ++  new-chad  |=(c=chad (~(jab by charges) desk |=(charge +<(chad c))))
   ++  fetch-glob
+    ^-  (list card)
     =/  =charge
       ~|  desk/desk
       (~(got by charges) desk)
     =/  tid=@t  (cat 3 'docket-' (scot %uv (sham (mix eny.bowl desk))))
     ?>  ?=(%glob -.href.docket.charge)
-    =*  loc  glob-location.href.docket.charge
-    ~>  %slog.0^leaf/"docket: fetching glob for {<desk>} desk"
-    =/  =cage  spider-start+!>([~ `tid byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl) %glob !>(`[loc desk])])
-    :~  (watch-our:(pass %glob) %spider /thread-result/[tid])
-        (poke-our:(pass %glob) %spider cage)
+    =/  ref  glob-reference.href.docket.charge
+    ?:  ?=(%ames -.location.ref)
+      ?:  =(our.bowl ship.location.ref)
+        ~>  %slog.0^leaf/"docket: awaiting manual glob for {<desk>} desk"
+        ~
+      ~>  %slog.0^leaf/"docket: fetching ames glob for {<desk>} desk"
+      :_  ~
+      %+  watch:(pass %glob-ames)
+        [ship.location.ref %docket]
+      /glob/[base.href.docket.charge]/(scot %uv hash.ref)
+    ~>  %slog.0^leaf/"docket: fetching http glob for {<desk>} desk"
+    =/  =cage  spider-start+!>([~ `tid byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl) %glob !>(`[ref desk])])
+    :~  (watch-our:(pass %glob-http) %spider /thread-result/[tid])
+        (poke-our:(pass %glob-http) %spider cage)
     ==
   ++  docket-exists  .^(? %cu (scry:io desk /desk/docket))
   ++  docket  .^(^docket %cx (scry:io desk /desk/docket))
diff --git a/pkg/garden/desk.docket b/pkg/garden/desk.docket
index 37424f9f5..b120df5d9 100644
--- a/pkg/garden/desk.docket
+++ b/pkg/garden/desk.docket
@@ -1,8 +1,9 @@
 :~  title+'Garden'
     info+'An app launcher for Urbit. '
     color+0xee.5432
-    glob-http+'https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v7.1jqf3.5gao8.67i4k.64c49.i6kr8.glob'
-    ::glob-ames+~zod
+    glob-http+['https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v2.dne76.9hibl.1o442.h6l11.cn7os.glob' 0v2.dne76.9hibl.1o442.h6l11.cn7os]
+    glob-http+['https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v7.1jqf3.5gao8.67i4k.64c49.i6kr8.glob' 0v7.1jqf3.5gao8.67i4k.64c49.i6kr8]
+    ::glob-ames+~zod^0v0
     base+'grid'
     version+[0 0 1]
     website+'https://tlon.io'
diff --git a/pkg/garden/ted/glob.hoon b/pkg/garden/ted/glob.hoon
index 3f63e7dd6..15d9301c8 100644
--- a/pkg/garden/ted/glob.hoon
+++ b/pkg/garden/ted/glob.hoon
@@ -5,15 +5,15 @@
 |=  arg=vase
 =/  m  (strand ,vase)
 ^-  form:m
-=+  !<([~ loc=glob-location:docket base=term] arg)
+=+  !<([~ ref=glob-reference:docket base=term] arg)
 |^
-?-  -.loc
-  %http  (fetch-http url.loc)
-  %ames  (fetch-ames ship.loc base)
+?-  -.location.ref
+  %http  (fetch-http [url.location hash]:ref)
+  %ames  !!  ::NOTE  done within docket itself
 ==
 ::
 ++  fetch-http
-  |=  url=cord
+  |=  [url=cord hash=@uvH]
   ^-  form:m
   ;<  =glob:docket  bind:m
     %+  (retry:strandio ,glob:docket)  `5
@@ -22,16 +22,7 @@
     %-  pure:n
     %-  mole
     |.
+    =-  ?>(=(hash (sham -)) -)
     ;;(=glob:docket (cue cord))
   (pure:m !>(glob))
-::
-::  download from ship's docket state
-++  fetch-ames
-  |=  [=ship base=term]
-  ^-  form:m
-  ;<  =bowl:spider  bind:m  get-bowl:strandio
-  ;<  =cage  bind:m
-    (watch-one:strandio /glob/(scot %da now.bowl) [ship %docket] /glob/[base])
-  ?>  ?=(%glob p.cage)
-  (pure:m q.cage)
 --
diff --git a/pkg/landscape/desk.docket b/pkg/landscape/desk.docket
index df41dbe42..a7dd20a1c 100644
--- a/pkg/landscape/desk.docket
+++ b/pkg/landscape/desk.docket
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 :~  title+'Landscape'
     info+'A suite of applications to communicate on Urbit'
     color+0xee.5432
-    glob-http+'https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v1.vu4e7.efplp.stcdg.7hhds.0tp5v.glob'
+    glob-http+['https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v1.vu4e7.efplp.stcdg.7hhds.0tp5v.glob' 0v1.vu4e7.efplp.stcdg.7hhds.0tp5v]
     base+'landscape'
     version+[1 3 5]
     website+'https://tlon.io'
diff --git a/pkg/webterm/desk.docket b/pkg/webterm/desk.docket
index af21b5735..2508dea04 100644
--- a/pkg/webterm/desk.docket
+++ b/pkg/webterm/desk.docket
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 :~  title+'Web Terminal'
     info+'A web interface for dill, through herm.'
     color+0x2e.4347
-    glob-http+'https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v4.8ui32.ui10d.t0v4d.n9g1s.1ftua.glob'
+    glob-http+['https://bootstrap.urbit.org/glob-0v4.8ui32.ui10d.t0v4d.n9g1s.1ftua.glob' 0v4.8ui32.ui10d.t0v4d.n9g1s.1ftua]
     base+'webterm'
     version+[0 0 1]
     website+'https://tlon.io'