diff --git a/pkg/arvo/app/claz.hoon b/pkg/arvo/app/claz.hoon
index 005b7f85aa..befc2f89ca 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/app/claz.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/app/claz.hoon
@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
   +*  this  .
       do    ~(. +> bowl)
       def   ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+      bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
   ::
   ++  on-init   on-init:def
   ++  on-save   !>(state)
@@ -108,7 +109,7 @@
   =/  new-tid=@ta
     :((cury cat 3) dap.bowl '--' (scot %uv eny.bowl))
   =/  args
-    [~ `new-tid %claz-prep-command !>([node-url command])]
+    [~ `new-tid bec %claz-prep-command !>([node-url command])]
   :~  (watch-spider /prepare our.bowl /thread-result/[new-tid])
       (poke-spider /prepare our.bowl %spider-start !>(args))
   ==
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/app/dojo.hoon b/pkg/arvo/app/dojo.hoon
index 634627a5b8..c298bc938b 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/app/dojo.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/app/dojo.hoon
@@ -860,7 +860,8 @@
         [%pass /wool %agent [our.hid %spider] %watch /thread-result/[tid]]
       %-  he-card
       =/  =cage  ::  also sub
-        [%spider-start !>([~ `tid fil (dy-some src)])]
+        ::  TODO: support threads on other desks
+        [%spider-start !>([~ `tid he-beak fil (dy-some src)])]
       [%pass /wool %agent [our.hid %spider] %poke cage]
     ::
     ++  dy-make                                         ::  build step
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/app/eth-sender.hoon b/pkg/arvo/app/eth-sender.hoon
index 78eebbb164..0a537f02a7 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/app/eth-sender.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/app/eth-sender.hoon
@@ -49,6 +49,7 @@
   +*  this  .
       do    ~(. +> bowl)
       def   ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+      bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
   ::
   ++  on-init   on-init:def
   ++  on-save   !>(state)
@@ -137,9 +138,7 @@
   ^-  (list card)
   =/  tid=@ta
     :((cury cat 3) dap.bowl '--' node-id '--' (scot %uv eny.bowl))
-  =/  args
-    :^  ~  `tid  %eth-send-txs
-    !>([node step txs])
+  =/  args  [~ `tid bec %eth-send-txs !>([node step txs]]
   :~  (watch-spider /send/[tid] our.bowl /thread-result/[tid])
       (poke-spider /send/[tid] our.bowl %spider-start !>(args))
   ==
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/app/eth-watcher.hoon b/pkg/arvo/app/eth-watcher.hoon
index 419e041f34..cb4c358c18 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/app/eth-watcher.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/app/eth-watcher.hoon
@@ -64,6 +64,7 @@
 |_  =bowl:gall
 +*  this  .
     def   ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+    bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
 ::
 ++  on-init
   ^-  (quip card _this)
@@ -462,8 +463,9 @@
         (cat 3 'eth-watcher--' (scot %uv eny.bowl))
       :_  dog(running `[now.bowl new-tid])
       =/  args
-        :^  ~  `new-tid  %eth-watcher
-        !>([~ `watchpup`[- number pending-logs blocks]:dog])
+        :*  ~  `new-tid  bec  %eth-watcher
+            !>([~ `watchpup`[- number pending-logs blocks]:dog])
+        ==
       :~  (watch-spider path our.bowl /thread-result/[new-tid])
           (poke-spider path our.bowl %spider-start !>(args))
       ==
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/app/gaze.hoon b/pkg/arvo/app/gaze.hoon
index 3423480286..a8bd170838 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/app/gaze.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/app/gaze.hoon
@@ -62,6 +62,7 @@
   +*  this  .
       do    ~(. +> bowl)
       def   ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+      bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
   ::
   ++  on-init
     ^-  (quip card _this)
@@ -296,7 +297,7 @@
     ::
       %+  poke-spider  /timestamps/[tid]
       :-  %spider-start
-      =-  !>([~ `tid %eth-get-timestamps -])
+      =-  !>([~ `tid bec %eth-get-timestamps -])
       !>  ^-  [@t (list @ud)]
       :-  node-url
       =-  ~(tap in -)
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/app/spider.hoon b/pkg/arvo/app/spider.hoon
index a014d38136..73dca38b0f 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/app/spider.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/app/spider.hoon
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
   ==
 ::
 +$  start-args
-  [parent=(unit tid) use=(unit tid) file=term =vase]
+  [parent=(unit tid) use=(unit tid) =beak file=term =vase]
 --
 ::
 ::  Trie operations
@@ -145,6 +145,7 @@
       spider-core  +>
       sc           ~(. spider-core bowl)
       def          ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+      bec          byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
   ::
   ++  on-init   
     ^-  (quip card _this)
@@ -271,7 +272,7 @@
 ::
 ~%  %spider-helper  ..get-yarn  ~
 |_  =bowl:gall
-::
+++  bec  byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
 ++  bind-eyre
   ^-  card
   [%pass /bind %arvo %e %connect [~ /spider] %spider]
@@ -302,15 +303,10 @@
       /(scot %p our.bowl)/[q.byk.bowl]/(scot %da now.bowl)/json/[input-mark]
     ==
   ?>  ?=(^ body.request.inbound-request)
-  =/  body=json
-    (need (de-json:html q.u.body.request.inbound-request))
-  =/  input=vase
-    (slop !>(~) (tube !>(body)))
-  =/  =start-args
-    [~ `tid thread input]
-  =^  cards  state
-    (handle-start-thread start-args)
-  [cards state]
+  =/  body=json  (need (de-json:html q.u.body.request.inbound-request))
+  =/  input=vase  (slop !>(~) (tube !>(body)))
+  =/  =start-args  [~ `tid bec thread input]
+  (handle-start-thread start-args)
 ::
 ++  on-poke-input
   |=  input
@@ -345,7 +341,7 @@
 ::
 ++  handle-start-thread
   ~/  %handle-start-thread
-  |=  [parent-tid=(unit tid) use=(unit tid) file=term =vase]
+  |=  [parent-tid=(unit tid) use=(unit tid) =beak file=term =vase]
   ^-  (quip card ^state)
   =/  parent-yarn=yarn
     ?~  parent-tid
@@ -366,11 +362,11 @@
     ==
   =/  pax=path
     ~|  no-file-for-thread+file
-    (need (get-fit:clay [our q.byk da+now]:bowl %ted file))
+    (need (get-fit:clay beak %ted file))
   :_  state
   :_  ~
   :+  %pass  /build/[new-tid]
-  [%arvo %c %warp our.bowl %base ~ %sing %a da+now.bowl pax]
+  [%arvo %c %warp p.beak q.beak ~ %sing %a r.beak pax]
 ::
 ++  handle-build
   ~/  %handle-build
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/gen/spider/start.hoon b/pkg/arvo/gen/spider/start.hoon
index e7607bde32..1aa4a7ce7e 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/gen/spider/start.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/gen/spider/start.hoon
@@ -1,4 +1,7 @@
 ::  Start a thread
 :-  %say
-|=  [* [name=term vase=$@(~ [vase ~])] ~]
-[%spider-start ~ ~ name ?~(vase *^vase -.vase)]
+|=  $:  [now=@da eny=@uvJ bec=beak]
+        [name=term vase=$@(~ [vase ~])]
+        ~
+    ==
+[%spider-start ~ ~ bec name ?~(vase *^vase -.vase)]
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/lib/ph/io.hoon b/pkg/arvo/lib/ph/io.hoon
index e41bb9f48c..fe0460bdb9 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/lib/ph/io.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/lib/ph/io.hoon
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@
   =/  tid
     %+  scot  %ta
     (cat 3 (cat 3 'strand_' i.threads) (scot %uv (sham i.threads eny.bowl)))
-  =/  poke-vase  !>([`tid.bowl ~ i.threads *vase])
+  =/  poke-vase  !>([`tid.bowl ~ byk.bowl i.threads *vase])
   ;<  ~  bind:m  (poke-our %spider %spider-start poke-vase)
   loop(threads t.threads, tids (~(put by tids) i.threads tid))
 ::
diff --git a/pkg/arvo/lib/strandio.hoon b/pkg/arvo/lib/strandio.hoon
index d0574fc73c..03ad35079a 100644
--- a/pkg/arvo/lib/strandio.hoon
+++ b/pkg/arvo/lib/strandio.hoon
@@ -704,16 +704,18 @@
 ::
 ++  start-thread
   |=  file=term
-  (start-thread-with-args file *vase)
+  =/  m  (strand ,tid:spider)
+  ;<  =bowl:spider  bind:m  get-bowl
+  (start-thread-with-args byk.bowl file *vase)
 ::
 ++  start-thread-with-args
-  |=  [file=term args=vase]
+  |=  [=beak file=term args=vase]
   =/  m  (strand ,tid:spider)
   ^-  form:m
   ;<  =bowl:spider  bind:m  get-bowl
   =/  tid
     (scot %ta (cat 3 (cat 3 'strand_' file) (scot %uv (sham file eny.bowl))))
-  =/  poke-vase  !>([`tid.bowl `tid file args])
+  =/  poke-vase  !>([`tid.bowl `tid beak file args])
   ;<  ~  bind:m  (poke-our %spider %spider-start poke-vase)
   ;<  ~  bind:m  (sleep ~s0)  ::  wait for thread to start
   (pure:m tid)
diff --git a/pkg/landscape/app/glob.hoon b/pkg/landscape/app/glob.hoon
index ee3a5f5e48..be8cf2b351 100644
--- a/pkg/landscape/app/glob.hoon
+++ b/pkg/landscape/app/glob.hoon
@@ -59,6 +59,7 @@
 |_  =bowl:gall
 +*  this  .
     def  ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+    bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
 ++  on-init
   ^-  (quip card _this)
   ::  delay through timer to make sure %spider has started
@@ -252,7 +253,7 @@
     ?~  glob-details
       [~ this]
     =/  new-tid=@ta  (cat 3 'glob--' (scot %uv (sham eny.bowl serve-path)))
-    =/  args  [~ `new-tid %glob !>([~ hash.u.glob-details])]
+    =/  args  [~ `new-tid bec %glob !>([~ hash.u.glob-details])]
     =/  action=cage  [%file-server-action !>([%unserve-dir serve-path])]
     =/  spider-wire  [(scot %uv hash.u.glob-details) serve-path]
     =.  globs.state
diff --git a/pkg/landscape/app/observe-hook.hoon b/pkg/landscape/app/observe-hook.hoon
index 3b000e6c93..caab94ae8f 100644
--- a/pkg/landscape/app/observe-hook.hoon
+++ b/pkg/landscape/app/observe-hook.hoon
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@
 |_  =bowl:gall
 +*  this  .
     def   ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+    bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
     desk  q.byk.bowl
 ::
 ++  on-init
@@ -225,7 +226,7 @@
               [our.bowl %spider]
               %poke
               %spider-start
-              !>([~ `tid thread.observer (slop !>(~) q.cage.sign)])
+              !>([~ `tid bec thread.observer (slop !>(~) q.cage.sign)])
       ==  ==
     ==
   ::
diff --git a/pkg/landscape/app/pool-group-hook.hoon b/pkg/landscape/app/pool-group-hook.hoon
index 8f61f64cc7..dbd57339d9 100644
--- a/pkg/landscape/app/pool-group-hook.hoon
+++ b/pkg/landscape/app/pool-group-hook.hoon
@@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
   +*  this  .
       do    ~(. +> bowl)
       def   ~(. (default-agent this %|) bowl)
+      bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
   ::
   ++  on-init
     ^-  (quip card _this)
@@ -124,6 +125,7 @@
   --
 ::
 |_  =bowl:gall
+++  bec   byk.bowl(r da+now.bowl)
 ++  poke-spider
   |=  [=path =cage]
   ^-  card
@@ -150,7 +152,7 @@
   ^-  (quip card _state)
   =/  new-tid  (new-tid eny.bowl)
   =/  args
-    [~ `new-tid %eth-read-contract !>([url.state req])]
+    [~ `new-tid bec %eth-read-contract !>([url.state req])]
   :_  state(running `new-tid)
   :~  (watch-spider wire /thread-result/[new-tid])
       (poke-spider wire %spider-start !>(args))
diff --git a/pkg/landscape/ted/invite/accepted-graph.hoon b/pkg/landscape/ted/invite/accepted-graph.hoon
index 23aa836d27..091f35ad7b 100644
--- a/pkg/landscape/ted/invite/accepted-graph.hoon
+++ b/pkg/landscape/ted/invite/accepted-graph.hoon
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
   (pure:m !>(~))
 ;<  ~  bind:m
   %+  poke-our  %spider
-  =-  spider-start+!>([`tid.bowl ~ %graph-join -])
+  =-  spider-start+!>([`tid.bowl ~ byk.bowl %graph-join -])
   %+  slop  !>(~)
   !>  ^-  action:graph-view
   [%join resource.invite ship.invite]
diff --git a/pkg/landscape/ted/md/on-add-group-feed.hoon b/pkg/landscape/ted/md/on-add-group-feed.hoon
index e6ccdd2f5b..c74a100ae8 100644
--- a/pkg/landscape/ted/md/on-add-group-feed.hoon
+++ b/pkg/landscape/ted/md/on-add-group-feed.hoon
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@
 =*  feed  u.u.feed.config.metadatum.update
 ;<  ~  bind:m
   %+  poke-our  %spider
-  =-  spider-start+!>([`tid.bowl ~ %graph-join -])
+  =-  spider-start+!>([`tid.bowl ~ byk.bowl %graph-join -])
   %+  slop  !>(~)
   !>  ^-  action:graph-view
   [%join resource.feed entity.resource.feed]